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				Experience post qualification
				Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:22 am
				by a sensation
				I was wondering if anybody can shed some light on whether it is needed to have 2 years post qualification experience to get a visa in:
Indonesia
Singapore
Malaysia
Thank you
			 
			
					
				Re: Experience post qualification
				Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:49 am
				by giraffe0345
				Think Indonesia may be 5 years. Never heard of a restriction for the other two but may be wrong
			 
			
					
				Re: Experience post qualification
				Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:09 am
				by Yantantether
				giraffe0345 wrote:
> Think Indonesia may be 5 years. Never heard of a restriction for the other
> two but may be wrong
giraffe is correct with the 5 yrs for Indonesia. (though that's somewhere to be cautious with right now anyway!)
 Not too sure of the others, sorry.
			 
			
					
				Response
				Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:09 am
				by PsyGuy
				Why do you ask?
None of those countries (including Indonesia) have a regulatory requirement of X years of post certification experience to get a work visa.
The issue is what those definitions are. First, A qualification is considered a bachelors degree, not your teaching certificate, though you can use your teaching certificate. Second, your experience is whatever you have on a resume, thats it, no notarized service records or anything. Third, the Manpower Office has a lot of discretion in determining who is and isnt qualified, and changes day to day and inspector by inspector. A lot of that has to do with relationships and "pull". 
If your IS wanted to get you a work visa they could. The issue for your IS is that the fee is $1200 per applicant, and someone with 5 years experience post certification is very unlikely to be refused ITAS (Residence Permit) and IKTA (Foreigner Work Permit), and a school doesnt want to lose that kind of money on a weak application. 
There is no government document stating professional educators need 5 years post certification experience. If that happened and was true the ESOL industry in Indonesia would collapse.