@NellyPB
Your error is the presumption that this is a miscarriage of justice. The term you really mean is 'confirmation bias', you think/feel/believe that Miss Pedo is innocent so it must be a miscarriage of justice, but thats just something you think.
No, its not a point to consider, Miss Pedo is a Fugitive, theres no difference between her and someone committing a serious crime and fleeing to a non-extradition state. Innocent people dont run or hide.
This case doesnt need to only be congruent with the most popular, abuse cases happen in a less than majority of other locations and environments, it doesnt make them less abusive.
Theres a victims, there the victims guardians, theres a government willing to prosecute, thats enough minds and bodies to warrant a trial. Im not interested in playing Trumpian "What-about-isms".
Yes it could be trauma. Yes the parents could be experiencing mental trauma and anguish about having their child abused, that might have required processing and thus the delay. Victims can be sexually assaulted and go years without reporting and sometimes are never reported at all, in comparison three days doesnt seem all that long or sus.
Yes they are acting in the best interest of their child. If they were some how the real perpetrators bringing the entire issue under a microscope with these proceedings seems very unwise compared to concealing the abuse, if the parents are the cause.
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“Alleged” victim.
Yes, why would you take worrying photos?
Why would you want to scapegoat someone?
This is not DARVO. There was a line of investigation that was not followed.
Yes, why would you take worrying photos?
Why would you want to scapegoat someone?
This is not DARVO. There was a line of investigation that was not followed.
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“Confirmation Bias”
A good point. It might be hard for professionals to believe a ‘normal’ professional family could neglect or abuse a child.
A good point. It might be hard for professionals to believe a ‘normal’ professional family could neglect or abuse a child.
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@NellyPB
No, theres a victim.
As evidence, but how do you know these photos are "worrying" have you seen them?
Yes, and why would you attempt to scapegoat someone with such a bizarre narrative and hiding crimes is much more difficult to do when you put them under the microscope of an investigation.
This is sounding like DARVO. Alternative lines of investigation were not followed because they have the perpetrator.
Its not hard to believe a family member can be an abuser at all, its just not the case here, its Miss Pedo.
No, theres a victim.
As evidence, but how do you know these photos are "worrying" have you seen them?
Yes, and why would you attempt to scapegoat someone with such a bizarre narrative and hiding crimes is much more difficult to do when you put them under the microscope of an investigation.
This is sounding like DARVO. Alternative lines of investigation were not followed because they have the perpetrator.
Its not hard to believe a family member can be an abuser at all, its just not the case here, its Miss Pedo.
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Intl.Teach
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Said ‘worrying photos’ were seen by admin and have been described by experts. They were taken at home. Not at school and go beyond the date of the initial incident by weeks.
Camilla Tominey is a respected journalist who opened with “ I have never met a person more innocent”. Why would she put her reputation at stake?
There are key points that point to lack of hygiene that a parent would be responsible for. A teacher of a 5 year old maintains a routine for the hours in their care. A bus and sleep routine is not their concern.
You know nothing of this case. You were not at any hearings and you are the one with confirmation bias.
It is an alleged victim and an alleged defendant. That is why Türkiye has a trial process. Nobody has been convicted.
You keep reiterating that Türkiye is part of CofE but so is the UK and they are both bound by human rights law. Richardson has a ruling that thinks her basic human rights are best met in her home country. Accept it.
Camilla Tominey is a respected journalist who opened with “ I have never met a person more innocent”. Why would she put her reputation at stake?
There are key points that point to lack of hygiene that a parent would be responsible for. A teacher of a 5 year old maintains a routine for the hours in their care. A bus and sleep routine is not their concern.
You know nothing of this case. You were not at any hearings and you are the one with confirmation bias.
It is an alleged victim and an alleged defendant. That is why Türkiye has a trial process. Nobody has been convicted.
You keep reiterating that Türkiye is part of CofE but so is the UK and they are both bound by human rights law. Richardson has a ruling that thinks her basic human rights are best met in her home country. Accept it.
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@Intl.Teach
So no, you havent seen them. Youre just guessing based on third . opinions.
Camilla Tomineys opinion is worth just as much as any other ley persons opinion, zero.
There can be abuse AND a hygiene issue, both of those can be true. You dont know that they arent. Trial is a mechanism for determining that.
I know a great deal about this case. You are the one with confirmation bias.
No theres a victim, someone abused or neglected that child making them a victim or abuse or neglect.
A trial process Miss Pedo is evading.
No, Miss Pedo doesnt have such a ruling on the case. She has a ruling denying her extradition to Türkiye. There has been no ruling on the merits of the case. Miss Pedo is a fugitive as defined by Turkish law, with an active red notice for her arrest and detention.
So no, you havent seen them. Youre just guessing based on third . opinions.
Camilla Tomineys opinion is worth just as much as any other ley persons opinion, zero.
There can be abuse AND a hygiene issue, both of those can be true. You dont know that they arent. Trial is a mechanism for determining that.
I know a great deal about this case. You are the one with confirmation bias.
No theres a victim, someone abused or neglected that child making them a victim or abuse or neglect.
A trial process Miss Pedo is evading.
No, Miss Pedo doesnt have such a ruling on the case. She has a ruling denying her extradition to Türkiye. There has been no ruling on the merits of the case. Miss Pedo is a fugitive as defined by Turkish law, with an active red notice for her arrest and detention.
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“So no, you havent seen them. Youre just guessing based on third . opinions.”
But experts have seen them and described them, who was in them, time stamps etc. some people had them thrust in front of them. Why would I see them. They are confidential.
“Camilla Tomineys opinion is worth just as much as any other ley persons opinion, zero.”
Her ‘opinion’ is maybe, but her reputation matters for a lot.
“There can be abuse AND a hygiene issue, both of those can be true. You dont know that they arent. Trial is a mechanism for determining that.”
Certainly. Contradicting yourself yet again. So surely both needed investigating. Neglect is a very dangerous form of child abuse.
“I know a great deal about this case. You are the one with confirmation bias.”
No you really do not.
“No theres a victim, someone abused or neglected that child making them a victim or abuse or neglect.”
The contradiction and wavering of argument is hysterical. You now admit there could be abuse from elsewhere. Again, why was this aspect not investigated?
“A trial process Miss Pedo is evading.”
Ship sailed. Two countries bound by agreements, treaties and the Court of Strasbourg. Article 8 @psyguy. A decision that was not appealed by Türkiye. No evasion. Human rights.
“No, Miss Pedo doesnt have such a ruling on the case. She has a ruling denying her extradition to Türkiye. There has been no ruling on the merits of the case. Miss Pedo is a fugitive as defined by Turkish law, with an active red notice for her arrest and detention.”
Repetitive. We know. No ruling. Innocent until proven guilty. One accusation, contradictory and weak evidence.
We tire of your repetitive and contradictory statements, alongside slander and obvious lack of any knowledge of the actual evidence and circumstances involving this case.
We disagree.
But experts have seen them and described them, who was in them, time stamps etc. some people had them thrust in front of them. Why would I see them. They are confidential.
“Camilla Tomineys opinion is worth just as much as any other ley persons opinion, zero.”
Her ‘opinion’ is maybe, but her reputation matters for a lot.
“There can be abuse AND a hygiene issue, both of those can be true. You dont know that they arent. Trial is a mechanism for determining that.”
Certainly. Contradicting yourself yet again. So surely both needed investigating. Neglect is a very dangerous form of child abuse.
“I know a great deal about this case. You are the one with confirmation bias.”
No you really do not.
“No theres a victim, someone abused or neglected that child making them a victim or abuse or neglect.”
The contradiction and wavering of argument is hysterical. You now admit there could be abuse from elsewhere. Again, why was this aspect not investigated?
“A trial process Miss Pedo is evading.”
Ship sailed. Two countries bound by agreements, treaties and the Court of Strasbourg. Article 8 @psyguy. A decision that was not appealed by Türkiye. No evasion. Human rights.
“No, Miss Pedo doesnt have such a ruling on the case. She has a ruling denying her extradition to Türkiye. There has been no ruling on the merits of the case. Miss Pedo is a fugitive as defined by Turkish law, with an active red notice for her arrest and detention.”
Repetitive. We know. No ruling. Innocent until proven guilty. One accusation, contradictory and weak evidence.
We tire of your repetitive and contradictory statements, alongside slander and obvious lack of any knowledge of the actual evidence and circumstances involving this case.
We disagree.
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@Intl.Teach
So you have no direct knowledge its all just hearsay.
Reputation isnt credibility and even less so validity. Its just some reporter with an opinion.
Its not contradicting at all. You dont know the meaning of 'and', you confuse it with 'or'. They both dont need investigating but since you appear to ignore everything after and. Miss Pedos abuse has been investigated AND the victim might have a hygiene problem. The former is of much greater grave concern than the latter.
I really do.
Theres no contradiction the victim can suffer Miss Pedos abuse AND the parents may be slightly neglectful. The childs hygiene issue may be of the childs own doing. This level of neglect if it is truly neglect is extremely minor.
Yes, the ship sailed and Miss Pedo along with it, its called evading and fleeing. Youre still confusing extradition with exoneration. Miss Pedo is still a fugitive and still has an active red notice for her arrest. No agreement or treaty between Türkiye and the UK requires Türkiye to accept the UKs refusal to extradite as exoneration on the merits. Türkiye doesnt need to appeal the UK Courts, the UK Courts dont have any authority over the Turkish ones.
Neither do you have a crystal ball and have any idea what the ECHR in Strasbourg would rule. Youre just guessing.
Yes, youre excessively repetitive, dont know Turkish law. Dont know the definition of words, continuously confuse legal terms such as extradition and exoneration, youre a cultists with confirmation bias.
Miss Pedo is a fugitive, hopefully will be convicted in absentia. Crocodile tears to avoid prosecution and responsibility for her crimes. If she was innocent Miss Pedo would defend herself, though her depression about a length term of incarceration against strong evidence and a known victim, its no wonder she chooses the life of a fugitive.
So you have no direct knowledge its all just hearsay.
Reputation isnt credibility and even less so validity. Its just some reporter with an opinion.
Its not contradicting at all. You dont know the meaning of 'and', you confuse it with 'or'. They both dont need investigating but since you appear to ignore everything after and. Miss Pedos abuse has been investigated AND the victim might have a hygiene problem. The former is of much greater grave concern than the latter.
I really do.
Theres no contradiction the victim can suffer Miss Pedos abuse AND the parents may be slightly neglectful. The childs hygiene issue may be of the childs own doing. This level of neglect if it is truly neglect is extremely minor.
Yes, the ship sailed and Miss Pedo along with it, its called evading and fleeing. Youre still confusing extradition with exoneration. Miss Pedo is still a fugitive and still has an active red notice for her arrest. No agreement or treaty between Türkiye and the UK requires Türkiye to accept the UKs refusal to extradite as exoneration on the merits. Türkiye doesnt need to appeal the UK Courts, the UK Courts dont have any authority over the Turkish ones.
Neither do you have a crystal ball and have any idea what the ECHR in Strasbourg would rule. Youre just guessing.
Yes, youre excessively repetitive, dont know Turkish law. Dont know the definition of words, continuously confuse legal terms such as extradition and exoneration, youre a cultists with confirmation bias.
Miss Pedo is a fugitive, hopefully will be convicted in absentia. Crocodile tears to avoid prosecution and responsibility for her crimes. If she was innocent Miss Pedo would defend herself, though her depression about a length term of incarceration against strong evidence and a known victim, its no wonder she chooses the life of a fugitive.