@Thames Pirate
An IB DIP candidate IS can offer DIP. They can offer appointments to faculty and staff, they can offer admission to students, they can engage in admissions, marketing, advertising, they can design curriculum, lessons, policies and procedures. They can do a lot in terms of offering the DIP. What they cant do is offer or deliver the program. In this case they could specifically recruit ITs/DTs and this is permissible.
Your statement regarding the IB DIP is wholly in error. IB ISs offering the DIP may not offer the DIP program in any variation. See Article 8.1.b |Rules for IB candidate schools|. The IS may not deliver "DP [sic] structured classes". Students are not eligible for the I.B., nor may they receive DPCR (as they are not eligible to sit for exams).
I stated that 'a Candidate IB IS could offer DIP', I stated nothing about the DIP program, you stated "a candidate school can offer DP [sic] structured classes", whereas the IB IS offering DIP can not deliver, offer, provide, etc. the DIP program even on a trial basis.
Thats incorrect, they could offer another SLL curriculum, AP, A*, etc.
Candidate IB ISs/DSs are not included when using the public IB search tool. In this case the IS could be a Candidate IS/DS.
I never stated your use of [sic] was in error. As I described in a previous post the use of [sic] has a number of uses including identifying the use of colloquialism and anachronism. DIP is an anachronism and DP is a colloquialism.
More TPF non-sense.
Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
Again, you are arguing with things I never said in the realm of what ifs since the OP has clarified.
However, I do need to offer one correction. An Ersatzschule at the secondary level MUST offer a German Abschluss. They can offer something else (such as the IB MYP or DP) parallel, but they must offer Abi or MSA (or ESA or Fachabi). They cannot just offer AP and IB. An Ergänzungsschule can do so.
And I won’t argue with you on the difference between colloquialisms and abbreviations. It‘s clear you are simply playing games.
However, I do need to offer one correction. An Ersatzschule at the secondary level MUST offer a German Abschluss. They can offer something else (such as the IB MYP or DP) parallel, but they must offer Abi or MSA (or ESA or Fachabi). They cannot just offer AP and IB. An Ergänzungsschule can do so.
And I won’t argue with you on the difference between colloquialisms and abbreviations. It‘s clear you are simply playing games.
Re: Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
Hi there,
I taught in 3 IB international schools in Bavaria and they had to check all my degrees and license (teacher registration) and have them approved. It was no problem, just protocol each time. I qualified in Australia. My schools had plenty of Americans. If the school wants to offer you a position, they’ll do the paperwork for you. You don’t need to deal with it. You do not need to move to Germany first. I’m not sure about other states but I’ve never heard of colleagues having issues.
I taught in 3 IB international schools in Bavaria and they had to check all my degrees and license (teacher registration) and have them approved. It was no problem, just protocol each time. I qualified in Australia. My schools had plenty of Americans. If the school wants to offer you a position, they’ll do the paperwork for you. You don’t need to deal with it. You do not need to move to Germany first. I’m not sure about other states but I’ve never heard of colleagues having issues.
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@Thames Pirate
Yes you did. A DIP Candidate IS cant do is offer or deliver the DIP program, you stated "a candidate school can offer DP [sic] structured classes" They would not be permitted to provide instruction and refer to it with any terms or language relating to the IB or DIP, regardless of what an IT reads and composes for their instruction. The IT could structure courses that utilize inquiry based methods and a pedagogy based on global citizenship. They would not be DIP structured courses and they could not refer to them as such or using the DIP in their terminology.
ISs (Independent/Private) in Germany, in general, may offer whatever curriculum and programs they wish. DSs (Maintained/Public) must offer a German national program, which may be in addition to other alternative programs.
Like all TPF non-sense the position of @Thames Pirate is neither strong enough nor sufficiently supported to withstand debate. You have shown a history of just being wrong and then resorting to ad-hominem attacks when you begin to whine when youre shown to be wrong. In this case your limited language proficiency is not a substitute for actual competence.
Yes you did. A DIP Candidate IS cant do is offer or deliver the DIP program, you stated "a candidate school can offer DP [sic] structured classes" They would not be permitted to provide instruction and refer to it with any terms or language relating to the IB or DIP, regardless of what an IT reads and composes for their instruction. The IT could structure courses that utilize inquiry based methods and a pedagogy based on global citizenship. They would not be DIP structured courses and they could not refer to them as such or using the DIP in their terminology.
ISs (Independent/Private) in Germany, in general, may offer whatever curriculum and programs they wish. DSs (Maintained/Public) must offer a German national program, which may be in addition to other alternative programs.
Like all TPF non-sense the position of @Thames Pirate is neither strong enough nor sufficiently supported to withstand debate. You have shown a history of just being wrong and then resorting to ad-hominem attacks when you begin to whine when youre shown to be wrong. In this case your limited language proficiency is not a substitute for actual competence.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
A candidate school already offering a diploma of some kind can structure its courses however it wants. They aren’t offering the IB DP or claiming to do so.
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ISs (Independent/Private) in Germany, in general, may offer whatever curriculum and programs they wish. DSs (Maintained/Public) must offer a German national program, which may be in addition to other alternative programs.
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Restating what I just said yet again—and still telling me I am wrong for saying it!
The pattern continues.
[quote=PsyGuy post_id=64423 time=1720776248 user_id=68047]
ISs (Independent/Private) in Germany, in general, may offer whatever curriculum and programs they wish. DSs (Maintained/Public) must offer a German national program, which may be in addition to other alternative programs.
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Restating what I just said yet again—and still telling me I am wrong for saying it!
The pattern continues.
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@Thames Pirate
Yes you did. A DIP Candidate IS cant do is offer or deliver the DIP program, you stated "a candidate school can offer DP [sic] structured classes" They would not be permitted to provide instruction and refer to it with any terms or language relating to the IB or DIP, regardless of what an IT reads and composes for their instruction. The IT could structure courses that utilize inquiry based methods and a pedagogy based on global citizenship. They would not be DIP structured courses and they could not refer to them as such or using the DIP in their terminology.
Youre TPF pattern of non-sense continues. You consistently plagiarize and take credit for the ideas and writings of others.
Yes you did. A DIP Candidate IS cant do is offer or deliver the DIP program, you stated "a candidate school can offer DP [sic] structured classes" They would not be permitted to provide instruction and refer to it with any terms or language relating to the IB or DIP, regardless of what an IT reads and composes for their instruction. The IT could structure courses that utilize inquiry based methods and a pedagogy based on global citizenship. They would not be DIP structured courses and they could not refer to them as such or using the DIP in their terminology.
Youre TPF pattern of non-sense continues. You consistently plagiarize and take credit for the ideas and writings of others.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
Copy and paste, gaslight, rinse, repeat. Get some new material already.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
Yes, why change from gaslighting and from restating my information without regard to accuracy? No need for you to know anything that way!
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Thames Pirate
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Yes, my material is original (to the forum, not the German documentation), valid, and correct. I even provided documentation and answered clarifying questions rather than copying and pasting the same sentences and stating that I only used trusted sources without providing them.
But hey, feel free to answer some questions on topics about which you claim to know more. Put your money where your mouth is.
But hey, feel free to answer some questions on topics about which you claim to know more. Put your money where your mouth is.
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Thames Pirate
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And another copy and paste. It's almost as if you have no original thoughts.
Re: Qualifications recognition to teach in Germany.
Having too much experience with this myself I can confirm what Thames Pirate has posted. Could have saved myself many hours of research if I had simply bothered to ask TP this back then. Stubborn me spend too much time researching it myself. Got sidetracked many times but ultimately arrived at the same conclusions.
Bavaria is wonderful. You will love it there.
Bavaria is wonderful. You will love it there.