Personal recs at top schools

Post Reply
chiliverde
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:45 am
Location: Europe

Personal recs at top schools

Post by chiliverde »

I've spent my recent teaching career in solid mid-upper 2nd tier schools, which generally suits me just fine since I really value work/life balance over just about anything else. In my schools, and my region, I've seen how frequently personal recommendations from teachers help others get jobs. I'm just curious if in the top schools it works the same.

For instance, if a valued teacher (not admin) recommends another teacher, is that candidate more likely to be considered than others from the applicant pool? Or do top schools put more due process into hiring? I know I'm making a lot of generalizations here, and that so many schools are different. But what's been your experience?
fine dude
Posts: 651
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:12 pm
Location: SE Asia

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by fine dude »

Depends how good the applicant is in relation to others, credential- and experience-wise.
coin_operated
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:23 pm

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by coin_operated »

It depends on the school. Specifically, it depends on how much that school values the input of a respected teacher over, say, credentials of the applicant or the impressions of the head of the applicable department or how Senior Management "feels" about it. The input of a respected teacher might mean diddly squat if she hasn't adequately sucked up to the person(s) in charge of hiring for the position you've applied for.

But again, depends on the school.
mamava
Posts: 320
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 7:56 am

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by mamava »

At all the schools I've worked at, principals have actively mentioned "word of mouth" recs from teachers. At the least, it ensures that your file will be read by the principal, which is a big step, especially if the school gets hundreds of applications. Whether the candidate is good fit is out of your hands, generally. You also stake your rep on who you bring up to your admin--it's tricky when someone you know is not a good hire asks you to put a word in for them!
sid
Posts: 1392
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:44 am

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by sid »

It's a good first step. So long as the referee is respected at the school, it'll ensure your application gets proper attention, and could be the decider between several candidates of similar caliber.
But it won't make up for gaps in experience, qualifications or other references.
chiliverde
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:45 am
Location: Europe

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by chiliverde »

@sid cringe!
sid
Posts: 1392
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:44 am

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by sid »

Sorry. Didn’t mean you. Just exploring the limits overall.
chiliverde
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:45 am
Location: Europe

Re: Personal recs at top schools

Post by chiliverde »

@sid Sorry! That was confusing. I thought I was replying on the teaching philosophy thread :P
PsyGuy
Posts: 10793
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:51 am
Location: Northern Europe

Response

Post by PsyGuy »

Tier 1 and Elite tier ISs have their own way of doing things and that theyre going to do them that way. A valued ITs recommendation will generally get the applicant in front of the recruiter/leadership for a review and if they are competitive they go into the selection pool. Youd be surprised how many ITs have a friend or colleague to recommend when a vacancy comes up, everyone seems to know someone who would be perfect for the IS and the position.
Post Reply