2017 Fair Diaries?

reisgio
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Post by reisgio »

@fine dude, what utter nonsense you write.

In other news, a rainy day in London has ended this year's fair for me. While many would find it depressing, I find it cleansing.

Bottom line: teachers need to really man up. I have never met and been in the company of so many poltroons and nebbishes in my life. I am convinced by this experience that the entire field of education is in for a revolution sooner rather than later because I can't believe those with money will support having their children taught by and attend schools led by such uninspiring and ineffectual recreants for much longer. Congrats to all who got your dream job. Even bigger congrats to those who saw the light that they are in the entirely wrong field.
fine dude
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Capitalism and international education go hand-in-hand. What's wrong about it? If you want to help poor kids, you are in the wrong place. I understand the pain of losing a job due to nepotism, but not all teachers are hired that way. You can't put down the entire sector based on one personal incident. How do you know those folks are uninspiring when you never observed their class for a single lesson? Job fairs may not be the best solution, but I work with wonderful and professional colleagues who have been hired from these very events.
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When someone compares teaching to escorting, they must be in drunken stupor. That's more non-sensical than anything I have ever posted here. I'm glad you don't teach my kids.
joe30
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Tbf escorts in London are wildly overpriced. The teacher-to-escort wages ratio is a lot better outside Western Europe.
reisgio
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As you would have known if you could, I turned down many interviews at the fair. I am not bitter for not getting an offer. It says more about the school than it does me if I interview and don't get an offer or if I am not even offered an interview. I was actually offered two jobs at this fair and I turned down both. I am done settling. That is the point. The whole field is about settling. It's the mindset the powers that be want you to have. I am done settling. The end.
Thames Pirate
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To some extent I agree that too many people settle. Sure, sometimes your dream school doesn't come through, but if the only offers you get are locations or schools you don't really want, then why bother? Go to a DS and get your leadership, your IB experience, or find something better to do with your time. There is no reason to bother bouncing around crummy schools and dealing with those frustrations.

I am a passionate educator, but I also firmly believe that we work to live. I wouldn't live in a hellish place and work in a job that is frustrating just to get some resume padding in. Why live somewhere you don't like? Why work somewhere that has an abusive boss or whatever? I love teaching, but I want to keep loving it--and that won't happen if going in to work is a chore or if I am living in a place I hate. Life is too short to be in a career you hate, and there are too many good schools out there to be in a bad one.

Beyond that, though, I don't see eye to eye with reisgio at all! Then again, I tend to be a glass-half-full person.
joe30
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It's like I said before...recruitment fairs are toxic events and should be avoided. Hopefully some more people have now seen the light.
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I find them fun. But hey, I am weird like that. I realise most people don't share that opinion.
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Post by PsyGuy »

I actually enjoyed the weekend.
I generally agree with @Thames Pirate, many of the observation congruent with past years. LON has always been the fashion show where the young and pretty go who want to move to the EU, I dont blame them. Its the same reason you rob banks, thats where the coin is.
Theres always been a higher degree of nepotism at LON, and its still one of my stronger strategies if your pretty and a noob in IE and want to get to the EU marry someone in leadership.
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reisgio wrote:
> @fine dude, I am sorry you can't read. As you would have known if you
> could, I turned down many interviews at the fair. I am not bitter for not
> getting an offer. It says more about the school than it does me if I
> interview and don't get an offer or if I am not even offered an interview.
> I was actually offered two jobs at this fair and I turned down both. I am
> done settling. That is the point. The whole field is about settling. It's
> the mindset the powers that be want you to have. I am done settling. The
> end.
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No, I would say that it says something about the interviewer's ability to judge personality/character. You are far too convinced of your own superiority and/or virtually everyone else's inferiority for that to not shine through with blinding clarity. Maybe that appeals to some schools/admin. As we say, there is a school/position for everyone out there.
sid
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Post by sid »

Agreed.
From time to time, it's good to consider whether, in situations where our opinion is totally and utterly in the minority, it's possible that the majority is correct.
Alternately, one might consider that if something unpleasant happens, like not getting a desired job/interview, just once it might be for any reason whatsoever. But if it happens again and again, it might be something to do with the applicant.
Alternately still, one might ponder the incoming POTUS, and his style of denigrating anyone who doesn't fawn all over him. Anyone who doesn't like him, he considers awful, boring, overrated, on the way out...
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I have this philosophy that if I meet more than three @$$holes in a day than Im the @$$hole.
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Post by Walter »

@Reisgio Have you ever thought of having an ego-ectomy?
@Joe90 Get a job, and if you can't, then stop whining about it and prepare yourself better.

Lots of really good people got positions this weekend at SEARCH. They're off on an adventure that will change their lives. Because you didn't, you have to insult and denigrate and name-call. So pathetic.

@Dave "I actually enjoyed the weekend." Oh come on. You weren't at SEARCH London. And you know why not - just as I do.
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Re: 2017 Fair Diaries?

Post by wrldtrvlr123 »

joe30 wrote:
> Already have one. And it was got without the expense or stress of a fair.
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Congrats. So where are you off to?
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