Future of International Schools due to...

Walter
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@PsyGuy Dave, I'm sorry to say that this smells like one of your fiats:

No they dont, its easy to say good ISs care about everything that someone else also cares about. They care far more about secondary and especially school leaving levels than they do ECE. Its expensive day care, and its hard finding good ITs in ECE because there isnt a demand for educating good ECE educators.

Where's your evidence? I know lots of really good schools, Davey, and they are all full up in their Early Years Programs. I meet with recruiters every year, and we all bemoan the lack of high quality Early Years teacher candidates. Doesn't matter to me if you teach IB fizz or Kindy 1 - the salary is the same where I work.

Have you thought of retraining, Dave? A job's a job...
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@walter

More recent experience than yours. More bunk, you dont meet with ANY recruiters at any RE, conference, etc.. and talk about ECE programs. Leadership bemoans parents and ownership, admin claims to the contrary are BS.

There is a lack of good EC ITs because unlike P/S, the pathway to making an EC IT "good" involves spending a lot of money for a PS/Nursery program that maybe pays a little more coin than minimum wages. EC ITs that make it into IE are going up in compensation even at lower tier IS, whereas in P/S going into IE is often a cut in compensation to get in at entry level.
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Excuse me for butting in here, but I'm finding this topic very interesting. In the UK Early Years teachers actually have the same qualifications and are paid the same salary as teachers from any other year group (be it primary or secondary school). When choosing a PGCE prospective teachers can choose to do an Early Years focussed PGCE. Though technically they are qualified to teach any age group, they specialise and do their teaching placements in Nursery-Year Two (which is age 3-7 in the UK as school starts earlier). They are just as qualified as any other teacher and paid the same.

In fact, all teachers are paid on the same salary scale. We don't have a different scale for teachers of secondary, primary or EY. I find it quite shocking that in other countries EY teachers don't have the same level of qualifications and are only paid minimum wage. Many UK state schools have a nursery attached and they legally must hire a proper qualified teacher (e.g someone who has done a PGCE or a B.ed).

So for British EY teachers it is not a jump up in wages to go international. However, I have certainly noticed that internationally there are more EY teachers that would not be qualified to teach EY in a UK state school. It's a shame.
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