Discussion
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:54 am
@cattalus
The rule is no amount of training equals any amount of experience, ISs will pay for training, but if it comes down to a handful of ITs none with IB experience the one with training has an advantage.
Yes according to the new regulations you would need to be trained in each of the 10 DIP courses that you teach. In the past with requiring only one member of staff to be trained if the history teacher and geography teacher each trained in their associated subject were to switch subjects they would still meet the PD regulations since the trained history teacher teaching geography meets the one member on staff requirement. Now each teacher must be trained specifically in the subject they teach. If you were trained in history and then were to move ISs to teach geography you would need to be trained then in Geography.
There are 10 courses (11 if you count ESS) in the IBs Individuals and Societies (social studies) cluster and the cheapest training Ive see for online workshops is $600, so all 10 would cost you about $6000-$6600.
Yes the Professional IB Teaching and Learning certification would meet all of your IB training/PD requirements, for all 10 (11) courses.
Again, its prior IB experience not training that means anything, but if you were trained in all 10/11 and a school needed to move people around youd be able to without needing additional training. Though in all likelihood the IS would just move the staff around anyway, training or not, unless they are going through authorization. An IS can get away with a lot as long as no one is watching. No amount of training is going to equal any amount of experience.
IB PD/training is indistinguishable from any other, as long as its a recognized IB provider/University it counts the same. There is a preferences among admins/HOSs for F2F training, but as far as meeting PD regulations its all the same.
@lookingforlefty
I got my admin certificate (and a couple others) from D.C.
A number of schools will admit you to a Doctorate without a Masters. Avoid the US, a doctorate int he US takes 7 years, go to the UK, or overseas and do a research P.h.D, no classes, just a dissertation, and its 3 years.
I know admins with BAs. Go to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, OxBridge, the Sorbonne, but hands down Harvard. An M.Ed/MAT from Harvard will open a lot of doors. Third tier schools will hire you for admin based on that alone. Why they get to advertise about it on their web page and since many third tier schools are for local nationals the parents will all believe you have "connections" and a reference from an Alumni will get their child the inside track.
Credentals aside its easy becoming an admin actually if youve got enough years of experience. Ownership hires their senior/executive admins, those people are typivally not educators, and what they are looking for is someone that represents them as an individual or group. They want someone who believes what they do, wants what they do, and has the same ideas about what direction to take to make all that happen, as they do. So for third tier/bottom schools you just find your little sociopath switch in your brain and turn it on.
When your being interviewed and asked "What is your recruitment strategy?" You say, "Payroll is the highest proportionate cost o organizational expenses. My goal would be to identify appropriate looking westerners who have a qualification in the subject with minimal experience and offer them marginal compensation, but promises of professional fulfillment and development and the opportunity to build their resume."
When they ask "How would you handle a problematic teacher without dismissal?" You say "I would call them into the office and inform them that some evidence of inappropriate misconduct has arisen, that may require reporting to the teachers licensing authority for potential barring, but if the teacher can fall in line, stop causing problems and keep quite, it wont have to be reported".
Three years teaching experience and currently at an IB school. The other requirements of workshops and working with adult learners is where the Professional Leadership certificate can substitute for that. The Professional Leadership certificates are entry pathways for IB ITs into the roles that are typically assigned to those who are IB admins. A Professional Leadership certificate could get you on as a visits team member even without being at an IS that had undergone the authorization process since the Leadership certificate provides such a "deep understanding" of the authorization process.
Its not really written down anywhere, but the IB wants to have a certificate with value and utility, and while the primary market for the IB Professional Leadership certificates is admins who otherwise do not have an admin credential, and cant get one because they dont have previous teaching licenses, or meet licensing requirements where they are licensed. The Professional Leadership certificate helps fill that void.
The rule is no amount of training equals any amount of experience, ISs will pay for training, but if it comes down to a handful of ITs none with IB experience the one with training has an advantage.
Yes according to the new regulations you would need to be trained in each of the 10 DIP courses that you teach. In the past with requiring only one member of staff to be trained if the history teacher and geography teacher each trained in their associated subject were to switch subjects they would still meet the PD regulations since the trained history teacher teaching geography meets the one member on staff requirement. Now each teacher must be trained specifically in the subject they teach. If you were trained in history and then were to move ISs to teach geography you would need to be trained then in Geography.
There are 10 courses (11 if you count ESS) in the IBs Individuals and Societies (social studies) cluster and the cheapest training Ive see for online workshops is $600, so all 10 would cost you about $6000-$6600.
Yes the Professional IB Teaching and Learning certification would meet all of your IB training/PD requirements, for all 10 (11) courses.
Again, its prior IB experience not training that means anything, but if you were trained in all 10/11 and a school needed to move people around youd be able to without needing additional training. Though in all likelihood the IS would just move the staff around anyway, training or not, unless they are going through authorization. An IS can get away with a lot as long as no one is watching. No amount of training is going to equal any amount of experience.
IB PD/training is indistinguishable from any other, as long as its a recognized IB provider/University it counts the same. There is a preferences among admins/HOSs for F2F training, but as far as meeting PD regulations its all the same.
@lookingforlefty
I got my admin certificate (and a couple others) from D.C.
A number of schools will admit you to a Doctorate without a Masters. Avoid the US, a doctorate int he US takes 7 years, go to the UK, or overseas and do a research P.h.D, no classes, just a dissertation, and its 3 years.
I know admins with BAs. Go to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, OxBridge, the Sorbonne, but hands down Harvard. An M.Ed/MAT from Harvard will open a lot of doors. Third tier schools will hire you for admin based on that alone. Why they get to advertise about it on their web page and since many third tier schools are for local nationals the parents will all believe you have "connections" and a reference from an Alumni will get their child the inside track.
Credentals aside its easy becoming an admin actually if youve got enough years of experience. Ownership hires their senior/executive admins, those people are typivally not educators, and what they are looking for is someone that represents them as an individual or group. They want someone who believes what they do, wants what they do, and has the same ideas about what direction to take to make all that happen, as they do. So for third tier/bottom schools you just find your little sociopath switch in your brain and turn it on.
When your being interviewed and asked "What is your recruitment strategy?" You say, "Payroll is the highest proportionate cost o organizational expenses. My goal would be to identify appropriate looking westerners who have a qualification in the subject with minimal experience and offer them marginal compensation, but promises of professional fulfillment and development and the opportunity to build their resume."
When they ask "How would you handle a problematic teacher without dismissal?" You say "I would call them into the office and inform them that some evidence of inappropriate misconduct has arisen, that may require reporting to the teachers licensing authority for potential barring, but if the teacher can fall in line, stop causing problems and keep quite, it wont have to be reported".
Three years teaching experience and currently at an IB school. The other requirements of workshops and working with adult learners is where the Professional Leadership certificate can substitute for that. The Professional Leadership certificates are entry pathways for IB ITs into the roles that are typically assigned to those who are IB admins. A Professional Leadership certificate could get you on as a visits team member even without being at an IS that had undergone the authorization process since the Leadership certificate provides such a "deep understanding" of the authorization process.
Its not really written down anywhere, but the IB wants to have a certificate with value and utility, and while the primary market for the IB Professional Leadership certificates is admins who otherwise do not have an admin credential, and cant get one because they dont have previous teaching licenses, or meet licensing requirements where they are licensed. The Professional Leadership certificate helps fill that void.