Media inquiry - teacher recruitment
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media my @#$@!!
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article
Yes - he was a jackass
I have to agree with the guest two postings above. No reporter for a well know paper would act like this guy. Anyone really connected with that paper would have contacted ISR and asked for their support.
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Bubba
Not sure how much is really affected
IMHO teacher shortages have been talked about for years. There are teacher shortages in the US, in districts that can't attract teachers for whatever reason. However districts that offer a desirable work condition have no trouble finding teachers.
I think overseas, schools that offer attractive packages and have good reputations will have no trouble finding teachers in most areas. There are always high demand for certain positions, but overall I'd expect little to have changed.
Twenty years ago Saudi Arabian schools were looked at favorably in terms of employment. Have two Gulf Wars and several car bombs changed that? Have schools in Saudi had to change or increase the benefits to attract quality teachers since then? I heard (not directly) that Aramco schools have reduced financial incentives over the past ten years to teachers. It would seem that the reverse would be true.
I would guess that possibly schools in Pakistan might have problems getting teachers to come, especially from the US.
It would be difficult to accurately measure demand across a large population of schools. I also thinks admins would be hesitant to admit a hiring problem with their school as that might give applicants an advantage.
I think overseas, schools that offer attractive packages and have good reputations will have no trouble finding teachers in most areas. There are always high demand for certain positions, but overall I'd expect little to have changed.
Twenty years ago Saudi Arabian schools were looked at favorably in terms of employment. Have two Gulf Wars and several car bombs changed that? Have schools in Saudi had to change or increase the benefits to attract quality teachers since then? I heard (not directly) that Aramco schools have reduced financial incentives over the past ten years to teachers. It would seem that the reverse would be true.
I would guess that possibly schools in Pakistan might have problems getting teachers to come, especially from the US.
It would be difficult to accurately measure demand across a large population of schools. I also thinks admins would be hesitant to admit a hiring problem with their school as that might give applicants an advantage.
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fake fake fake
One more thing about the journalist, then I'll let it go: He or she would not be collecting information from a site like this that is totally anonymous--especially 10 days before the print date, and "doubly especially" for a feature article. Who knows what the motives were, but certainly not quality journalism!
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Bubba
Yes, Sera, i think it will be a great year to look for a job. Our headmaster told our staff that last year was the most difficult search he had. We are a bigger school in eastern europe. (reasons: 9-11, higher salaries in the USA, fewer teachers, lots and lots of new schools in place like Dubai) So good luck!
Final thoughts on the journalist. Someone wanted our opinions, we shot him down, he wrote a good article about us, some of you still don't believe it. Why????
Final thoughts on the journalist. Someone wanted our opinions, we shot him down, he wrote a good article about us, some of you still don't believe it. Why????
Thanks, Bubba.
About the journalist, who cares? No harm done. He got his story (or someone got their story), and no one from here commented. Ok. Maybe the person wanted another, more general look at opinions from a concentrated source of international school teachers before they finished up their article. It makes sense to me, but whatever.
About the journalist, who cares? No harm done. He got his story (or someone got their story), and no one from here commented. Ok. Maybe the person wanted another, more general look at opinions from a concentrated source of international school teachers before they finished up their article. It makes sense to me, but whatever.
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beach
shortage
I don't really believe there is a shortage of applicants apart from some specialised positions. Quality applicants maybe another thing but you would probably want to hear back from a recruiter. If you look at some of the reviews posted you would probably see why some well credentialled teachers are a bit reluctant to enter, or re-enter the circuit. There seems to be a lot more schools but not necessarily good quality schools. Conditions have also been eroded - falling US dollar and no real wage increases in many schools.
In the age of online applications recruiters would be getting a stack of applicants and I believe the search for good positions is as competative as ever. There is more of a general pool of applicants I think who have not necessarily been screened by recruitment organisations. This, and the fact that there are many new schools coming on stream probably erodes the quality of 'international schools' although there are many fantastic schools out there.
My view as a teacher with both international and 'home' experience.
see you
In the age of online applications recruiters would be getting a stack of applicants and I believe the search for good positions is as competative as ever. There is more of a general pool of applicants I think who have not necessarily been screened by recruitment organisations. This, and the fact that there are many new schools coming on stream probably erodes the quality of 'international schools' although there are many fantastic schools out there.
My view as a teacher with both international and 'home' experience.
see you
Number of schools and 'For Profits'
'Beach' speaks of the increase in the number of schools and the impact on quality. I have noticed that the number of negative reviews on this forum is substantial. I also notice that many of the established, quality schools are not mentioned, or don't have many reviews.
Looking at SE Asia and the Middle East over the past 30 years, the number of schools alone has increased dramatically. It used to be that in SE Asia the IASIS schools; JIS, SAS, ISKL, ISB and maybe TAS were the few choices you had in terms of employment. The smaller schools, Caltec ect hardly got mention. Schools like the Tanglin school in Singapore, or the British schools got teachers elsewhere.
You didn't have the for profits at all. The pool has been diluted by institutions that don't offer the quality employment standards that the 'old' schools do. Quality schools will always be able to get quality teachers.
I'd say that if you compare the benefits of working at JIS or SAS or some major schools in Japan or elsewhere to those in the States in terms of working conditions, compensation and benefits, you'd come out very well. Compare working at some of the less desirable schools that often get slammed on this site, and you won't.
I'd also guess that many people motivated to post on the review site are so inclined because they are dissatisfied with their experience, and looking for a way to vent or connect with others of similar situation. Those that are happy have no real reason to do so. IMHO you don't see, or read much from some really great schools on the review site because people are not motivated to do so. The very nature of posting reviews will attract those that have something emotional to say. Those are usually the ones that are upset.
Looking at SE Asia and the Middle East over the past 30 years, the number of schools alone has increased dramatically. It used to be that in SE Asia the IASIS schools; JIS, SAS, ISKL, ISB and maybe TAS were the few choices you had in terms of employment. The smaller schools, Caltec ect hardly got mention. Schools like the Tanglin school in Singapore, or the British schools got teachers elsewhere.
You didn't have the for profits at all. The pool has been diluted by institutions that don't offer the quality employment standards that the 'old' schools do. Quality schools will always be able to get quality teachers.
I'd say that if you compare the benefits of working at JIS or SAS or some major schools in Japan or elsewhere to those in the States in terms of working conditions, compensation and benefits, you'd come out very well. Compare working at some of the less desirable schools that often get slammed on this site, and you won't.
I'd also guess that many people motivated to post on the review site are so inclined because they are dissatisfied with their experience, and looking for a way to vent or connect with others of similar situation. Those that are happy have no real reason to do so. IMHO you don't see, or read much from some really great schools on the review site because people are not motivated to do so. The very nature of posting reviews will attract those that have something emotional to say. Those are usually the ones that are upset.
