I have seen that this school has jobs for me, however there seems to be a lot of jobs going at this school. So is everyone leaving or is the school expanding?
There is 1 review which is positive but I wonder if it was put there recently to help with the recruiting.
Ichiro, can answer please, maybe under a different name? You had written something about the school before but you've deleted it.
I will be grateful for any information from anyone.
Thanks.
St. Andrews, Rayong, Thailand
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Yantantether
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Isn't housing cheap in that area? Or am I wrong, I am just guessing? I know there is no saving to be had there. I had thought it was a relaxed atmosphere, fairly well run and not a heavy workload. Plus you can live by the beach. Was it ever like this?
I wouldn't want to go there if its Cognita though because it will be a lot of work and no money.
I wouldn't want to go there if its Cognita though because it will be a lot of work and no money.
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Third tier school, low salary for Thailand. My information was that they had a housing package, but with the acquisition of InCognita this could have changed.
Housing is cheap, but thats not an excuse or a reason to go without a housing package ina market where its a standard benefit. You can find many third tier school in LOS that provide a housing package and comparable salary.
InCognita acquired IS HCMC in Saigon
InCognita changes schools into corporate schools, they make education all about business. They dont see teachers as assets or even their product, they see them as resources. They are successful because owners and boards like the increase in revenue, and that parents tend to get what they want despite academic rigor.
Housing is cheap, but thats not an excuse or a reason to go without a housing package ina market where its a standard benefit. You can find many third tier school in LOS that provide a housing package and comparable salary.
InCognita acquired IS HCMC in Saigon
InCognita changes schools into corporate schools, they make education all about business. They dont see teachers as assets or even their product, they see them as resources. They are successful because owners and boards like the increase in revenue, and that parents tend to get what they want despite academic rigor.
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Yantantether
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Ok, let's clear a few misconceptions up.
1. Firstly, PsyGuy is wrong (nothing unusual there), there never has been a housing allowance. Also, it's a 2nd tier school with an average salary for Thailand.
Aridion is correct in his/her assumptions, except the housing part.
Housing is as cheap/expensive as you want it to be. Thailand is not so cheap as it was anymore and prices rising quickly. A 2-bed condo will set you back 25-35,000 bht. Sure, if you want to live in a studio box for 10-15,000 no problem.
'You can find many third tier school in LOS that provide a housing package and comparable salary.' NO, you can't .
Like I said, it's an average salary from a 2nd tier school with a half decent rep- but NO housing.
1. Firstly, PsyGuy is wrong (nothing unusual there), there never has been a housing allowance. Also, it's a 2nd tier school with an average salary for Thailand.
Aridion is correct in his/her assumptions, except the housing part.
Housing is as cheap/expensive as you want it to be. Thailand is not so cheap as it was anymore and prices rising quickly. A 2-bed condo will set you back 25-35,000 bht. Sure, if you want to live in a studio box for 10-15,000 no problem.
'You can find many third tier school in LOS that provide a housing package and comparable salary.' NO, you can't .
Like I said, it's an average salary from a 2nd tier school with a half decent rep- but NO housing.
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No, it's become a 3rd tier school, they did have a housing package at one time, though it seems its changed. there salary and compensation package is below average. I haven't looked at their package lately, its not the kind of school that gets a lot of attention. The other tier 2 schools provide a housing pa Kate, and all other factors aside, I can't rate a school that's s deficient in such a standard part of its compensation package, with other schools that do.
If there is any tier your going to find schools in Thailand without a housing package, its in the third tier, and that describes Andrews, as a third tier school.
Thailand may not be s cheap as it once was, but NO WHERE is as cheap as it once was. Costs and prices have risen pretty much everywhere. You use to be ale to buy a coke for a nickel, and gas was a quarter, but that was then and this is now. Relative to other similar metropolitan locations, Thailand is cheap.
You must certainly can find 3rd tier school with housing packages, they are the rule not the exception in Thailland and to that end Asia. You can get ESL positions that provide housing, you can definitely get third tier schools with housing packages.
If there is any tier your going to find schools in Thailand without a housing package, its in the third tier, and that describes Andrews, as a third tier school.
Thailand may not be s cheap as it once was, but NO WHERE is as cheap as it once was. Costs and prices have risen pretty much everywhere. You use to be ale to buy a coke for a nickel, and gas was a quarter, but that was then and this is now. Relative to other similar metropolitan locations, Thailand is cheap.
You must certainly can find 3rd tier school with housing packages, they are the rule not the exception in Thailland and to that end Asia. You can get ESL positions that provide housing, you can definitely get third tier schools with housing packages.
Last edited by PsyGuy on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
An article about Cognita from the Guardian paper in the UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/201 ... ?fb=optOut
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/201 ... ?fb=optOut
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Yantantether
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Psy Guy, you really are tedious. If anyone says white then you'll say black.
Ok, instead of farting out of your stupid mouth all day, tell me a school in Thailand that is third tier, pays 90,000 up (net) baht month AND provides housing?
Whilst you're on a roll , tell me exactly when St. A's had a housing allowance? I'm really curious!
Oh and this: . 'Relative to other similar metropolitan locations, Thailand is cheap.' What do you mean by that? Did you mean to say Bangkok? Compared to where? Tokyo, Madrid? The figures I quoted for accomodation are correct and a big chunk out of a 90,000 bht salary - what was there to argue about?
Do you just like to spend your whole life arguing the toss with anyone and everyone? What a dysfunctional way to spend your time!
Deary me!
Ok, instead of farting out of your stupid mouth all day, tell me a school in Thailand that is third tier, pays 90,000 up (net) baht month AND provides housing?
Whilst you're on a roll , tell me exactly when St. A's had a housing allowance? I'm really curious!
Oh and this: . 'Relative to other similar metropolitan locations, Thailand is cheap.' What do you mean by that? Did you mean to say Bangkok? Compared to where? Tokyo, Madrid? The figures I quoted for accomodation are correct and a big chunk out of a 90,000 bht salary - what was there to argue about?
Do you just like to spend your whole life arguing the toss with anyone and everyone? What a dysfunctional way to spend your time!
Deary me!
Thank you for all your help. Please stop bickering. I don't really care what tier anyone thinks the school is.
I understand the money isn't great. I would not be going to St. Andrews in order to save. I just wanted to know if its become a horrible place to work at since Cognita took over or if its still a relaxed sort of place with not too much pressure. Seems like it used to be?
I have learnt tons at the school I am at, so I don't need to be in a school that is going to teach me stuff. I feel like every day has been PD, it is overwhelming really. I don't care if tech is that great or not either. I am at a 1-to-1 school, interactive whiteboards and all that. It hasn't made my life easier, in fact I have to spend more time preparing at home and then still be a performing seal in the classroom. Tier 1 schools are overrated!
I understand the money isn't great. I would not be going to St. Andrews in order to save. I just wanted to know if its become a horrible place to work at since Cognita took over or if its still a relaxed sort of place with not too much pressure. Seems like it used to be?
I have learnt tons at the school I am at, so I don't need to be in a school that is going to teach me stuff. I feel like every day has been PD, it is overwhelming really. I don't care if tech is that great or not either. I am at a 1-to-1 school, interactive whiteboards and all that. It hasn't made my life easier, in fact I have to spend more time preparing at home and then still be a performing seal in the classroom. Tier 1 schools are overrated!
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PsyGuy wrote:
> Third tier school, low salary for Thailand. My information was that they
> had a housing package, but with the acquisition of InCognita this could
> have changed.
> Housing is cheap, but thats not an excuse or a reason to go without a
> housing package ina market where its a standard benefit. You can find many
> third tier school in LOS that provide a housing package and comparable
> salary.
>
> InCognita acquired IS HCMC in Saigon
>
> InCognita changes schools into corporate schools, they make education all
> about business. They dont see teachers as assets or even their product,
> they see them as resources. They are successful because owners and boards
> like the increase in revenue, and that parents tend to get what they want
> despite academic rigor.
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An yet they have a learning support department.
> Third tier school, low salary for Thailand. My information was that they
> had a housing package, but with the acquisition of InCognita this could
> have changed.
> Housing is cheap, but thats not an excuse or a reason to go without a
> housing package ina market where its a standard benefit. You can find many
> third tier school in LOS that provide a housing package and comparable
> salary.
>
> InCognita acquired IS HCMC in Saigon
>
> InCognita changes schools into corporate schools, they make education all
> about business. They dont see teachers as assets or even their product,
> they see them as resources. They are successful because owners and boards
> like the increase in revenue, and that parents tend to get what they want
> despite academic rigor.
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An yet they have a learning support department.
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bananaphone
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Re: St. Andrews, Rayong, Thailand
anyone with CURRENT information who's actually worked there?
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