Mid-low 2nd tier.
Average salary with NO housing allowance.

Good day to you all,

Just reading some recommendations on a teacher recruitment site and they indicate to include this. I don't tend to unless specifically asked for.
What about others?

Also noticed that they include a section about your curriculum experience. I mention this in my cover letter but I don't have a specific section on my CV, I guess partly down to keeping it to 2 pages. (I obviously have a section on teaching exp).

Thoughts..............

Oh also, I include details of two previous non-teaching (though involved with children in a non-formal education aspect) positions. This tells them more about',me' and indicate why I went into teaching. Should I remove these to make room for the other sections mentioned?

Thanks.

I wouldn't start worrying yet, most schools are still selecting possible candidates from their pool of applicants. Also, they have still not clarified how many/which positions will be definitely available.

'Yes schools do drug tests, either because they are required from a government agency or because the school wants to get rid of some teachers. It's more common in Asia, including Thailand, China, Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore. When a school chooses to do its usually near the end of the year.'


'Nine years teaching in China and yet to be drug tested.'


More sensationalist gossip-mongering nonsense from WhyGuy? It is NOT more common in any of the schools in Thailand either! He's basing this solely from someone who's school was (supposedly) tested and posted this on here. I've never heard this happen anywhere else in Thailand, and it is HIGHLY unlikely (though, never say never).

I really wish he would take a sabbatical - for a decade or two!

The 'TES' (Times Education Supplement) online site is where most International ENC schools advertise posts. This is also free.

www.tes.co.uk/

That's a nice salary Meghan. May I ask what tax you pay? Also, any developments on the 'new' tax everyone has been worried about?

Thanks.

Aisha,
Thanks for your breakdown of some costs to consider, very useful.

Out of interest, how did you find the Vietnamese? I've heard some negatives from people who have been/lived there. (On saying that, I've heard opposing opinions too).

dano – thanks for that detailed explanation, excellent stuff and very useful.

Aisha – would you say $30000 is the minimum figure a teacher should consider in Vietnam? How long ago was that?

Inman – thanks, glad you find the topic useful.

Agree about Thailand (the figure I gave was after tax and assumes housing etc. is provided).

I’m personally interested in ME figures, so really useful examples there for me and others.

Thanks guys and keep them coming.

Thanks dano, exactly the info. I'm looking for for this exercise.

Would you say that example covers T1 schools only, or T2 also? What I'm getting at is, what do you think is the cut-off amount where people would struggle to live comfortably AND save a decent amount ( say $1000 up per month)?

$30-40000 ? $40000-up ?

Cheers.

NOTICE:( PLEASE guys, I completely understand that this exercise is not without flaws, so with that in mind, if you think it's pointless then don't join the thread. I don't need people ruining it by picking at it's deficiencies - Let's keep it to those who want to join in and may get something from it. Thanks).

I thought it might be useful for us to pool our knowledge/experiences regarding NET salaries paid by individual schools, in different countries throughout the IS circuit, prior to the recruiting season.

Now, before anyone deems this a useless exercise as everything is subjective, all I want to achieve is to gain a ball park figure for individual countries regarding what is/is not an acceptable salary offered by schools based on cost of living. This is EXCLUSIVE of other benefits such as housing/flights/medical etc - let's assume usual benefits apply. I think the net figure will be more useful, though open to gross if this would be easier? For ease, let's use a regular teacher with 5-10yrs exp as a standard example.

For example if I was looking at an International School in Thailand and usual benefits were covered then I would consider anything under net 70,000 baht per month (1420 pounds) very low and possibly unacceptable. (Also, perhaps we should use dollars as this is the currency used by Search - or we could go with local currencies?).

Therefore acceptable salary range in Thailand might be something like 70,000bht - 120,000bht. between the tier 1 -2 schools. (again tiers are subjective and I don't want to venture there really). I suppose most figures will include the tier 1 to 2/3 schools

So, in summary, I'm looking simply at providing teachers with an idea of an acceptable net salary, where they can live comfortably and save some also. Any and all suggestions/improvements warmly welcomed. I understand this will not provide perfect salary advice to everyone but it may help us a little as we set of on our quest to dance with the good, the bad and the downright ugly! ^_^

Who wants to play? :

The reviews didn't look too 'decent'.

No offence taken, (this time ^_^) and I agree in part.

I think it's less valuable to the teacher in many ways -for reasons I mentioned above- than it is to the schools. At least the schools can say this/that teacher has this/that PYP training even if it was online. Regardless of it's actual value as a teaching tool they can use it either for accreditation/authorisation requirements and/or to tell their parents (you said so yourself). Also, it will/may save them some money in the training budget (should they have one!).

At the end of the day it's about supply and demand. Are there enough (in-house)IB trained teachers out there to go round? If not, then someone with a 30 hrs online IB course under their belt is better than one with nowt.

I can answer part of your question as I have direct experience of doing exactly what you have queried. I did the online 'PYP induction' quite recently and as others have alluded to, I feel that what I gained in relation to being able to use this as a teacher is minimal. Yes I have a greater theoretical understanding of the PYP but it is just that - theoretical.

As PsyGuy explained, training is the ultimate but it is better than nothing, and you can only get that training when a school employs you, right. So, with the chicken and egg situation that is IB training and employment, then it may well put you in a much stronger position than some might believe?

I can't answer that one yet however, I will find out in the up- coming melee of the hiring season. Obviously those with IB experience will be in front of the likes of you and I, but in theory we should be just behind them. And how many teachers have real experience vs how many schools are looking for IB teachers. That's where we benefit - hopefully......in theory :D

Good luck.

'I have heeps of audacity, I dont suffer from any small amount of self esteem, and I have a whole closet full of character, in case your wondering'.


Oh no, not wondering at all matey. Your delusions of grandeur are well documented , as is your closet full of wind!

You keep blowing on that trumpet though, I'll just sit here watching and listening.

'Oof! Maybe that parent had a case against you if this is the way you handle some critique! '

It wasn't critique, it was personal and uncalled for. This is how I deal with anyone who mouths personal insults behind the safety of their keyboard. If you read this forum you'll be well aware of the nature of many of his ill-informed and opinionated posts. Sometimes you just kick too many dogs!