*Update: I have finished my degree with 1st class honors and will graduate in September. I have picked up football coaching certs and help coach a local underage team. I have found a school in Ireland who will accommodate me to fulfill the Teach now placement requirement. however, I have a few more questions before I decide to go through with it.
Can anyone confirm I don't need GCSE grade c in English and maths to transfer the D.C license to QTS? I have emailed the awarding authority and they won't tell me for sure. They just say to fill out an application and they will review it. The teach now representatives are advising me that I don't need them but they are effectively salespeople so I am conscious of that.
If I gain QTS and work abroad in any IS for a few years, if I return to England will I have to complete Induction as a newly qualified teacher or will my IS experience count and push me up on the payscales? I ask this because I will not be able to teach in Ireland as the teaching council has their own requirements to teach PE here. Also, my parents are aging and may need me to help care for them in the future. Therefore I would like to teach in England so I am reasonably close to them down the line.
Thanks
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- Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:51 am
- Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
- Topic: Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
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- Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:51 am
- Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
- Topic: Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
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Re: Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
PsyGuy: Thanks very much for your informative reply.
You have given me a lot to think about and you may have given me my new plan.
Your right my option 2 may result in me being stuck in the UK looking for an opening to complete my NQT and it may never happen.
Through some research It appears I may be able to get a pe teaching job in the ME through some organisations and a limited amount of schools there and in china are looking for someone like me who has a relevant degree but no teaching licence or experience.
The organisations are sabis and worldteachers. Sabis seems to get bad reviews online but I wont mind if I can get a start somewhere and sign up to do the teach now program to get my license. Anyone have experience with them?
My main sports are in GAA (Hurling and Gaelic football). So not very universal abroad. I have extensive playing and coaching experience in these sports. I will aim to get as many coaching certs as I can in other sports like soccer, volleyball and basketball in the coming month to make myself more marketable. Also I have joined a boxing club with my university and I am the strength and conditioning coach for them now. My search is on to find a job and get the ball rolling!
Would my degree and QTS with years of teaching experience be enough to land me good job opportunities in tier 1 cities as I advance in my career or would I need to do more study at some stage?
Finally, I am new to all this and dont fully understand some of the terminology.
IE? BSO? (is this British school overseas?). DE? DT? CT? LHs?
Thanks a million PsyGuy!
You have given me a lot to think about and you may have given me my new plan.
Your right my option 2 may result in me being stuck in the UK looking for an opening to complete my NQT and it may never happen.
Through some research It appears I may be able to get a pe teaching job in the ME through some organisations and a limited amount of schools there and in china are looking for someone like me who has a relevant degree but no teaching licence or experience.
The organisations are sabis and worldteachers. Sabis seems to get bad reviews online but I wont mind if I can get a start somewhere and sign up to do the teach now program to get my license. Anyone have experience with them?
My main sports are in GAA (Hurling and Gaelic football). So not very universal abroad. I have extensive playing and coaching experience in these sports. I will aim to get as many coaching certs as I can in other sports like soccer, volleyball and basketball in the coming month to make myself more marketable. Also I have joined a boxing club with my university and I am the strength and conditioning coach for them now. My search is on to find a job and get the ball rolling!
Would my degree and QTS with years of teaching experience be enough to land me good job opportunities in tier 1 cities as I advance in my career or would I need to do more study at some stage?
Finally, I am new to all this and dont fully understand some of the terminology.
IE? BSO? (is this British school overseas?). DE? DT? CT? LHs?
Thanks a million PsyGuy!
- Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:17 am
- Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
- Topic: Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
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Re: Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
Thanks for your replies curiousme and expatscot.
Expatscot: Yes I agree that doing a PGCE is probably the best option for me. My other options are too uncertain and I want to guarantee myself a good career in a subject that I am very passionate about. I will look into doing it in Scotland in greater detail however I still have to resit my English and maths in my leaving cert to qualify for their routes into teaching same as England. As I am currently in my final year in college I will not be able to sit them in June 2018 so it looks like I will sit them in June 2019.
curiousme: Yes I looked into doing it in the Ulster university and it costs around the same as England. They also require me to sit my English and maths again. I would prefer to do the proper PGCE as opposed to IPGCEs as I would like to have the full qualification and acquire QTS and be done with it. This would give me the ability to apply for all jobs in my subject area and not just hope to get into some tier 3 school and be lucky to have it. On the loan that is a good idea to repay when I earn 21k and over. Helps take some pressure off in case I cant find a job for a while. Thanks for the encouragement! Yes I want to be a PE teacher more then anything so I will get there in the end!
My plan now is to finish my degree, continue working and saving, get some PE experience in a school in Ireland and any coaching certificates I can pick up to strengthen my application for 2019 entry in any University haha.
Expatscot: Yes I agree that doing a PGCE is probably the best option for me. My other options are too uncertain and I want to guarantee myself a good career in a subject that I am very passionate about. I will look into doing it in Scotland in greater detail however I still have to resit my English and maths in my leaving cert to qualify for their routes into teaching same as England. As I am currently in my final year in college I will not be able to sit them in June 2018 so it looks like I will sit them in June 2019.
curiousme: Yes I looked into doing it in the Ulster university and it costs around the same as England. They also require me to sit my English and maths again. I would prefer to do the proper PGCE as opposed to IPGCEs as I would like to have the full qualification and acquire QTS and be done with it. This would give me the ability to apply for all jobs in my subject area and not just hope to get into some tier 3 school and be lucky to have it. On the loan that is a good idea to repay when I earn 21k and over. Helps take some pressure off in case I cant find a job for a while. Thanks for the encouragement! Yes I want to be a PE teacher more then anything so I will get there in the end!
My plan now is to finish my degree, continue working and saving, get some PE experience in a school in Ireland and any coaching certificates I can pick up to strengthen my application for 2019 entry in any University haha.
- Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:15 am
- Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
- Topic: Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
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Career Advice for Irish Guy? Please help
Hi Guys,
So I am new to the forum and I am looking for advice on the best way to get into international school teaching.
Background: I am a 25 year old Irish guy and would love to teach Physical education in ISs all over the world but especially in Asia and the middle east. I am currently in my final year studying BSc in Exercise and Health Fitness Level 8 bachelors degree in a college in Ireland.
So I am looking into all my options and need to make a decision soon!
Option 1: I wanted to do a masters in Physical education in Ireland after I graduate to get my teaching licence in Ireland but the teaching council here are not accepting my degree unless I go back to complete additional modules to qualify just to be in with a chance to do the masters. There is only one masters course in PE in the country. This would take me 4 years to come out with the masters (Additional modules 2 years, masters 2 years) and a big financial investment. Also there is a high chance of not finding work and I would still have to leave Ireland to get any kind of teaching job as the market here is terrible at the minute.
Option 2: Finish my degree and go the UK to do a PGCE in physical education and get my QTS. Work over there for a year or 2 and then move abroad to International schools. However, I would have to re-sit my English and maths exams from my leaving cert (Equivalent to GCSEs) and pass the numeracy and literacy exams as well as a competitive interview. Many schools are looking for UK teaching experience in schools to which I have none and would find it hard enough to get as I would be in Ireland studying for the Leaving cert exams and working part time to fund the course. Also it is expensive with the average PGCE costing £9500 in fees alone. I would have high living expenses for the year and may not be able to find work during the course. The earliest I could start the course is Sept 2019 all going well. Again I am told it is hard to find work in the subject to even get my QTS after the course.
Option 3: I am looking into doing the Teach-Now program to get a teaching licence and then transfer it to gain QTS and hope that is enough to get a start in a school somewhere/anywhere. I am thinking about doing the full masters with them but many are saying it is worthless as it is not accredited by an actual college. This option would be the easiest to my knowledge as I wouldn't have to do additional exams just to qualify to get into it and I could do it straight away. However my primary degree is not specifically in physical education so this may cause problems
Finally from your experience is there work for PE teachers at these schools or do they not take PE as serious as the rest of the subjects like English and maths?
What would you guys do if you were me?
I am really stressed out about all this and just want to be a PE teacher! but with all the red tape and hoops to jump through I might just be better off doing a different masters and getting a job in a different field.
Any advice welcomed and GREATLY appreciated!
So I am new to the forum and I am looking for advice on the best way to get into international school teaching.
Background: I am a 25 year old Irish guy and would love to teach Physical education in ISs all over the world but especially in Asia and the middle east. I am currently in my final year studying BSc in Exercise and Health Fitness Level 8 bachelors degree in a college in Ireland.
So I am looking into all my options and need to make a decision soon!
Option 1: I wanted to do a masters in Physical education in Ireland after I graduate to get my teaching licence in Ireland but the teaching council here are not accepting my degree unless I go back to complete additional modules to qualify just to be in with a chance to do the masters. There is only one masters course in PE in the country. This would take me 4 years to come out with the masters (Additional modules 2 years, masters 2 years) and a big financial investment. Also there is a high chance of not finding work and I would still have to leave Ireland to get any kind of teaching job as the market here is terrible at the minute.
Option 2: Finish my degree and go the UK to do a PGCE in physical education and get my QTS. Work over there for a year or 2 and then move abroad to International schools. However, I would have to re-sit my English and maths exams from my leaving cert (Equivalent to GCSEs) and pass the numeracy and literacy exams as well as a competitive interview. Many schools are looking for UK teaching experience in schools to which I have none and would find it hard enough to get as I would be in Ireland studying for the Leaving cert exams and working part time to fund the course. Also it is expensive with the average PGCE costing £9500 in fees alone. I would have high living expenses for the year and may not be able to find work during the course. The earliest I could start the course is Sept 2019 all going well. Again I am told it is hard to find work in the subject to even get my QTS after the course.
Option 3: I am looking into doing the Teach-Now program to get a teaching licence and then transfer it to gain QTS and hope that is enough to get a start in a school somewhere/anywhere. I am thinking about doing the full masters with them but many are saying it is worthless as it is not accredited by an actual college. This option would be the easiest to my knowledge as I wouldn't have to do additional exams just to qualify to get into it and I could do it straight away. However my primary degree is not specifically in physical education so this may cause problems
Finally from your experience is there work for PE teachers at these schools or do they not take PE as serious as the rest of the subjects like English and maths?
What would you guys do if you were me?
I am really stressed out about all this and just want to be a PE teacher! but with all the red tape and hoops to jump through I might just be better off doing a different masters and getting a job in a different field.
Any advice welcomed and GREATLY appreciated!