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Concerned Citizen's Perspective on Kuwait Brings Many Positive Comments |
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| POSITIVE REPONSES TO "CONCERNED CITIZEN'S" ARTICLE see original article | ||
Mr.Al
Rumaih tells it as it is.Our experience in Kuwait, while perhaps
a bit boring, was entirely enjoyable. We were
treated with respect and dignity by almost every Kuwaiti we met and
always by the expatriates working for these Kuwaitis. Arab hospitality
and generosity
towards their guests is famous worldwide and a few who fail to live
up to that image do NOT represent the majority. We made some wonderful
friends
among the students, staff and parents of the school we worked in. We
were treated fairly and in fact quite generously by the owners of the
school and while my wife did have a few occasions of being harassed,
she still felt quite safe with the security and behavior of the majority
of Kuwaiti men she met. It is unfair and unconscionable for people
who write articles on the ISR to paint all Arabs,Muslims and Kuwaitis
with
the same brush. Yes, Wasta is a big part of Kuwaiti life, yes it is
a traditional country and very distinct from the USA but so is Canada!
or the UK. We have as many issues and problems with influence peddling and corruption in North america as they do in other parts of the world. Our experience in Mexico confirmed this. We go overseas to experience and learn from these differences and to enjoy diversity and unusual, unpredictable experiences, not all of which are pleasant. As we say where I come from, " C'est la vie". |
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...I
agree with the message conveyed in this article. I lived in Kuwait
and taught at the American School of Kuwait for two years. While I
decided it was not the place for me, I did enjoy all that Kuwait had
to offer. I found it difficult at times to adhere to some of the foreign
customs, such as Ramadan. However, I immensely enjoyed the welcoming
nature of the Arab culture that I found in Kuwait. I enjoyed the parties
in the desert, smoking shisha with friends and talking for hours over
tea while going through the motions of purchasing a beautiful hand-created
carpet.
There were definitely times that it was not easy for me, as a single white North American woman, but I learned a lot from my students and their families. In fact, I still keep in touch with some of them and remind them of how much I enjoyed my time in their home. I even tell them that at times, I really do miss it. Kuwait does have its problems, what country doesn't? If you are not flexible enough to look outside yourself and appreciate the differences, then Kuwait is definitely not the place for you. In fact, overseas teaching is probably not the right job choice. However, if you like to experience different cultures and face new challenges, I would definitely recommend Kuwait as a first step. Many speak English and you can find many of the conveniences of the West (think Starbucks and Marks & Spencers). In fact, I recommended the American School of Kuwait to a friend that I made at my current school. She is teaching there now. Whatever you decide when offered a job in Kuwait, know that it will be vastly different from where you are currently coming from. But also know that those differences can provide a richness to your life that you would not be able to get elsewhere. Sincerely |
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This
is a well written article which I enjoyed reading. I read to many
negative articles about Kuwait on the ISR web site. The
statement that stood out to me the most is: There isn't any place on
earth where people are always perfect. Even in my hometown of New
York City.
I just had a recent interview with a private school in Kuwait. Hopefully,
I will be qualified for the job.
Thank you for writing this
article and for reassuring others and myself about Kuwait. |
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Well said! |
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| Fouzi,
I could not agree with you more on some of your points. I do not agree
that Kuwait 'has
been generous in allowing displaced and impoverished people from many
countries residency here to help them improve their lives.' I seriously
doubt that generosity is the motivation. If you didn't allow them in,
uhhhh...who would be the servants, the street cleaners, the teachers,
the maids, the hotel workers? Your mom? You? Your cousin? I don't think
so.
I am American and I am shocked, stunned, embarrassed about how ignorant, arrogant, immature and judgmental we often are when faced with cultures far different from our own. We go to places like Kuwait only for money -- generally not out of any altruistic motivators. Money. We stay among ourselves; live, eat, sleep, play together; don't bother to learn the people, the language, or anything. And the only people we do meet and accept are the sycophants that exist in every culture who want to be Americanized. I once read an article by a teacher who claimed to be a "teacher
for the world". She had been in the "Middle East" for
years. Yet she referred to Muslims as "Islamics" and Arabs
as "Arabics". Years, and she never learned the proper nouns
to use to describe the people of the world that she served. WE must
first look at ourselves before we look at others. Do we realize that we do the same thing? From our cells, we take snapshots and generalize the panoramic view without bothering to question our perceptions. We look at the people and the cultures from a uniquely narrow, American pedestal and cannot see that the base is crumbling and about to fall. One American working in a school for rich people in a developing Islamic country, was communicating with my Muslim friend about working there. My friend said she wears her head scarf in that country but not in America. The guy's response, "I would never let anyone make me apologize and deny my American hood." He never thought for a moment that the issue was quite the other way around. My friend is a proud Muslim. But, in America the discrimination against Muslims is so great, that she felt she had to deny her "Muslimhood" in America. We have no idea how the rest of the world perceives us because our egos won't let us see yet that we "ain't all that". |
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We
loved our time in Kuwait. It wasn't perfect in terms of some of the
mentioned problems, but it
is not alone. I wish I had more time to write, but the fact is MOST
Kuwaiti people are kind-hearted loving human beings like you and me.
The system
there is broken, and the FEW bad hearted individuals take advantage
of that system. The same could be said for MOST non-European countries
around
the world. We loved Kuwait and would love to go back and visit the
region in the near future. |
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I fully agree with this statement!!!!!
You hit the nail on the head. Lots of other nationalities hide under
the robes. Many of the problems are actually to blame on expats.
When you notice a person in Arabic dress do something you don't approve of, can you tell which Arab country they are from by looking at their clothes? How can a visitor know if the man in a dishdasha who cut in front of them at Starbucks wasn't from another gulf country? Yes, there are Kuwaiti's who drive too fast, behave badly towards others and so forth but is there any place on earth where people are always perfect? |
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Why teachers come to work in the gulf, do they expect it to be like their homeland! If teachers are coming to Kuwait or any other country because they think they are unique and because they think work is easier and not as demanding and challenging as they experience in their homeland, than these teachers are mislead. Working in schools in the Kuwait or other countries is challenging and demand hard work and is a challenge because of the different culture. if teachers are not prepared and think that they will be appreciated
because they come from "advanced countries" then they are
not thinking right! If retired teachers think it is easy to make
money internationally
withOUT much demand and hard work then they are planning to be in
trouble! If they are not prepared to accept and tolerate the cultural
differences
and hard work then they are making the wrong decision. |
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I am
an American who lived in Kuwait with their family for many, many years.
I loved living in Kuwait,
but keep in mind that Kuwait is what it is. What I believe happens
is people come there and experience culture shock and then blame it
on Kuwait.
Yes Kuwait has its share of problems but so does the US and Europe.
I can't tell you how many times I heard "well in the States," the
problem is your not in the US. Isn't the point of living and working
outside the US to experience something different?? There are good and
bad people where ever you go. The Kuwaitis I know are wonderful giving
people and I am not married to an Arab. |
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| NEGATIVE RESPONSES TO "CONCERNED CITIZEN'S" ARTICLE see original article | ||
Actually
the compensation is not that great, in good states (USA) and/or provinces
in Canada, and
the UK...the pay is significantly better. I am a teacher who worked
abroad for 10 years, with a short tenure in the Middle East...and returned
to
Canada (Alberta) because I am paid over 80,000 a year with 10 years
of experience and a Masters...the Middle east is no where as good as
this
and we get an amazing pension on top of this. I do not know why any
Canadian would ever work else where right now. We have a charmed life
in Canada
and the pay is great with health care that tops almost any country
in the world. So as to this TOTAL NONSENSE that the Middle East fairly
compensates
teachers....it is a complete fabrication, and when you consider that
you are essentially a slave to these people and they have no respect
for foreigners, why would you work there. Also, there are numerous
other countries that pay significantly better and a teacher's lifestyle
is
also better and safer. |
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Mr.
Al Rumaih overlooks a few simple things: 1. Kuwaitis are wealthy, not from their business acumen or contribution to the world's knowledge, but from an accident of geography that placed their tribes above massive oil reserves. 2. This inherited, not earned, wealth has warped values as most Kuwaitis have the warped belief that they EARNED the wealth. They are allowed to exist as a country only because countries who need their oil will defend them. The 1991 Gulf War is a prime example. 3. His best defense of behavior seems to be -- consider that the rude people may be from someplace else? Please! 4. He does not address at all the working conditions of the immigrants, working conditions that can easily be improved through laws from government--were it to care. 5. He did not address wasta at all, wasta being what drives the country. 6. He did not address the class system embedded in the country. Other countries have explicit and implicit class systems; Kuwait's is more onerous than most. |
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Any goodness that Kuwait offers to
the world is completely overshadowed by the evil that is occurring
in it. Simply ask the expats
who live there, the expats who have lived there, and any journalist
from western media who has researched and heard the horrendous heartbreaking
real stories of the masses for verification. Don't be lured by the
oil
money unless you are willing to sell your soul. I lost a year of my
life to that place. Don't make the same mistake. Until the Kuwaitis
learn
how to value all human life no matter nationality or color of skin,
they are doomed. I wish their oil would run out so they would learn
what "real" life
is like having to work hard for a living and getting along with and
appreciating all sorts of people. |
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The following statement
made by Fouzi is extremely in accurate. "My country
has been generous in allowing displaced and impoverished people from
many countries residency
here to help them
improve their lives."
I will explain:
There are companies in Kuwaiti that actively recruit expatriate from developing nations like the Philippines, Indonesia, India, etc. to serve as domestic workers. These companies charge the expatriates a large sum of money for the service of bringing them to Kuwait. The majority do not have the money required so the recruiting company covers the costs. Once in Kuwait the worker's passport is held by the company until the worker is contracted out to a family or business. The workers passport is held by either the recruiting company or the family or business that they have been contracted out to. This worker has to work whatever hours or in whatever conditions that the contract holder sees fit. The worker has to do this until the large cost to bring them to Kuwait is paid off. They are not permitted to leave Kuwait or discontinue their contract. I'm not sure if you're following this but this is legalized slavery. I encourage Fouzi to take a few minutes to randomly ask a few maids, drivers, or other domestic workers about their situation in Kuwait. There is an organization in Kuwait called the Kuwait Social Society that is trying to lobby for the amendment of labour laws to not allow this form of legalized slavery. This is not generosity towards displaced or impoverished people, this is taking advantage of displaced or impoverished people for one's own gain. I encourage Fouzi to read a local newspaper. Of course it is not always Kuwaiti citizens who act poorly towards others. No group of people are perfect and it is not right to generalize. My only statement is that it is not right to treat people of other nationalities like they are less human. I see this on a regular basis in Kuwait. What has created this terrible class system that clearly exists in Kuwait? I think one is deceiving themselves if they reason that it is not because of Kuwaiti's but completely due to other nationalities or Gulf citizens. This is a complete avoidance of any responsibility. It is important to be open-minded to other cultures when traveling abroad. However I don't think being open-minded means excusing the mistreatment of people who are less fortunate because it is "cultural". There is an incredible amount of injustice towards expatriate workers from developing countries in Kuwait. That's a reality. If you come and teach in Kuwait you will experience it. It has really been learning experience for me and made me really reflect about the rights of individuals. It's made me appreciate even more the equity that exists in my home country. It's definitely not perfect equity but far exceeds what I have experienced in Kuwait. |
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Oh please! how can he say, "My
country has been generous", Most
Kuwaitis pay 60 KD for their "servants". Really you still call
them "servants"? How forward thinking you are. And I happen
to live in a group of apartments where Kuwaiti men regularly visit their
mistresses. This problem is widespread. Should they be prosecuted, "wasta" will
get them off along with their speeding tickets, acts of inter-tribal
violence, etc. I (and everyone else) can recognize a Kuwaiti anywhere,
so let's not pretend that expats are mixing up their Gulf nations! Do
you think it is an accident that there doesn't seem to be a non-for-profit
school in Kuwait? Perhaps Kuwaitis should be a bit more concerned with
their community and human rights issues. |
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| MIXED RESPONSES TO "CONCERNED CITIZEN'S" ARTICLE see original article | ||
I lived and taught in Kuwait and met many fine people.
I think that Mr. Fouzi Al Rumaih's essay is fair and balanced. My personal
experience was mixed with good and bad. The school I worked at (KNES)
was a poor example of a school for any country in the world but many
of the people that I met and had deals with were very nice and hospitable.
The owners of the school are Kuwaiti and are responsible for giving schools
and their country a bad name. I did witness a lot of abuse of domestic
workers and that will always bother me. Kuwait is like most places----you
have to take the good with the bad. |
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